Zitat von crystal im Beitrag #510

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Usbkey should I always keep inside?

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attached to the usb socket😅

Hello everyone, need some ideas/help with NVMe boot.
Hardware:
Asus P6T Deluxe V2 (X58 with legacy BIOS only)
Samsung 950 Pro (Adapter M2 -> PCIe) - can boot on legacy (BIOS only) boards.

950 Pro can be set as bootable in BIOS; Win10 install directly on 950 Pro works fine and Win10 can boot from it w/o any issues.
After that -> GPT -> Clover with NvmExpressDxe.efi in both Efi\CLOVER\drivers\BIOS and UEFI.
If trying to boot from NVMe - it's resetted (reboot) in 1-2 Sec (black screen, ther is no kinda [error] message)
Right now runs only with a workaround: boot Clover from ext. USB (very slow) and than can choose a bootable partition on 950 Pro.
Same Clover on 950 Pro can not be loaded (w/o an "external" help like USB).
Tested Clover from 4988 till latest one, tried Clover options boot0af/boot0ss and BiosBlockIO/SATA.

Are there anything more I can try to get rid of ext. boot USB with Clover and be able to boot Clover on 950 Pro?

Thanks for your ideas/help in advance!

@crystal
@Lantan
as stated at the start of this thread....

Zitat von Nyctophilia im Beitrag #1

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- a plain USB flash drive or SD-card if a cardreader is present - Alternatively you can also use a SATA-device, but I won't cover the installation to a internal harddisk/SSD in this guide, as I like the concept of a seperate USB-flash for the Clover-EFI bootloader. It's easily replaceable and fastforward to install. You also don't have to worry about data-loss when updating it. If your legacy BIOS does not support USB-boot, then you shouldn't stick in a PCIe SSD into your machine anyways... A good reason to install it to a SATA-device might be, that you don't have any USB-ports left or if you are using a notebook (I don't consider sticking out USB-drives as a permanent and convenient solution). But check first if you have a cardreader, especially when you own a notebook. In BDU, you still have to enable the listing of internal, fixed disks first. Keep in mind that this installer will wipe the selected disk completely, so backup your data beforehand. If you find another way to install it without endangering the whole disk, just tell me. I will add it as an alternative option to my guide.

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Thank you for this !

@sibliss u have been very helpful!
in a second moment I will try to modify the bios and start from pcie without usb! do you think it's easy for me?🙂

@lantan

Sorry for asking, but
what is the purpose to install Clover, if the 950 Pro can be selected as boot-drive?

@sibliss: thanks for clarifying, means no need to try/search further
@Thiersee: multiple boot with some options (kinda extent of legacy BIOS to UEFI)

That's the point: if you installing a Win10 only - you don't need any boot help (like ext. USB): select as a boot drive and Windows can boot from it.
My hope was, that Clover (like a swiss knife) can handle it.

Regards,
Lantan

i prefer boot from sata! 😬

Can i set timeout “0” ? or “1” is best?

a good idea is to delete the letter from the disk manager so as not to see anything on "computer" 👍🏻

@crystal
It can be set to "0" - would boot directly, without/avoiding a Clover GUI

Zitat von Lantan im Beitrag #520

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@crystal
It can be set to "0" - would boot directly, without/avoiding a Clover GUI

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Hi everyone,

I lost a full day trying to make my system work. Now I am on the second one!

I have an old system used to called pistol because at the time it was a beast! My M/B is EVGA nForce 780i SLI (no AHCI support) and I am trying to migrate win10 64-bit OS to a newly purchased Samsung 970 EVO plus mounted on an ICY BOX PCIx adapter. History is as such:

1. migrated OS with Samsung migrating software
2. tried with an old USB, launched Clover (non graphical) but NVMe was not recognized.
3. Had a spare SATA drive, installed clover there and launched (very nice option btw), boot in windows from the NVMe drive was present but ended up in black screen.
4. I thought maybe a clean install will help so I tried to mount installation USB. No installation media was found.
5. Burned win10 ISO in DVD, again there was no option to boot from DVD. Couldn't install
6. Transferred install files to the spare partition of the SATA drive and there it was! Clover gave me option to run installation from there with fast speed as well.
7. I tried to do a startup repair in case I would be able to keep the old installation on the NVMe drive and skip the hassle of re-installing everything.
8. No go: "Startup Repair couldn't repair your PC"
9. Tried clean installation but got this: "Windows can't be installed on driveX partitionX. (show details)"
10. Clicked on show details gave "Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computer's hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure that the disk's controller is enabled int the computer's BIOS menu."
11. Although I tried to skip the warning and installed, in the end I got message that installation failed and all changes are being reverted.

I had some suspicion that since in windows to make the NVMe controller accessible with 2 SATA drives already attached, I had to disable two instances of the NVidia RAID controller I though there might had something to do with that so I tried to disable all SATA devices. Again I couldn't mount installation media!

Any suggestions?

UPDATE:
Used the NVMe drive on an ESXi installation (Linux) on another machine. After I put it back on the nForce machine, pressing F3 key on clover landing page adds 2 more options:

1. Boot UEFI internal from CLOVER
2. Boot UEFI internal from ESXi.

Option 2 works like a charm and ESXi loads perfectly!!! So it is possible to boot from NVMe only somehow not in windows!

@aphilgr1
i am not entirely sure what you are asking or trying to achieve?

however please copy the driver dxe file to all 4 of the locations mentioned in my pined update post to avoid having to press f3 in the future.

clover is just a graphical bootloader originally built for mac osx but it will happily boot almost any os including windows 10.
please not that you are required to always either use a usb stick as the first boot device or a sata hard drive either of which bios bootable devices can have clover installed to it.

please further clarify what you are trying to achieve ??

NOTE about trying to migrate/clone you are doing it all wrong please upgrade the existing windows installation to windows 10 via an inplace upgrade then perform a sysprep command to sysprep your installation ready for the clone process.
once sysprep is complete clone the now syspreped OS partitions to the new nvme. boot to the working clover select the new windows 10 from the nvme and boot to it.

Thanks for your reply!

The answer is that I cannot make the NVMe drive work in windows, either by migrating my old installation to it (tried twice with Samsung migrating assistant) or by installing a fresh one (windows 10 pro). The funny thing is that cloning a linux installation (ESXi) to the drive allows it to boot and run properly, but when I try to install windows on it I get the message

"Windows can't be installed on driveX partitionX. (show details)"

When I press on "show details" I see

"Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computer's hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure that the disk's controller is enabled in the computer's BIOS menu."

It seems somehow the disk is not visible as a booting device in windows although it is in Linux

that is the expected behavior windows will not see it as a bootable device as such...... this is why we use clover to get around this issue .... to install windows 10 from the dvd boot to clover then run the install dvd from within clover menu you should then be able to install to the disk. remember to ensure the nvme disk is formatted to GPT and is clearly showing in windows as a usable storage device before attempting to clone it again my advise is do not use the samsung tool and instead use sysprep as that is the microsoft tool.