Sorry, I'm still a little bit confused with the answer no.1.
1) set Clover USB-Drive as the first position in the boot priorities. Ok checked.
2)boot the first time from your INSTALL USB-drive (boot manager) to install W10 : U mean i boot to media installation usb then find the clover usb and boot from there again? I thought i had to boot from clover usb then pick Windowsinstallation media via EFI-Boot then choose the nvme ssd to install windows like normal?

Windows 10 supports already NVMe and has a standard NVMe driver; the problem is a mainboard not detecting NVMe drives!
So, if you install W10 with your installation media, you can install W10 (it detects the NVMe), but on the first reboot it will not continue, because the MB does not see de NVMe drive! At this point Clover-USB-Media must be attached!

Does your BIOS detect the NVMe?
If not, you need CLOVER, but not for the first step.

I'm still waiting for the ssd n adapter to arrive.The mainboard is from 2008, one of the first x58 back then. However i found a thread from a guy that used the same system like i have, it seems like nvme only work on the last slot PCIe.

Hello,
I have read most of the 27 pages on this post, and was able to understand the main ideas, as well as test some of them, such as the Windows 10 dual boot and the CLOVER method.
An IT manager for over 20 years, I'm not afraid to dive into the deepest technical issues, but still I'm stuck in trying to install and boot from a 1TB Intel 660p SSD M.2 PCIe NVME with a PCIe adapter.

My rig:
-Intel E8500 Core2Duo
-XFX 790i Ultra SLI (with the P09 AMI Phoenix bios, the last official one)
-EVGA GTX 780
-120GB SATA SSD from Sandisk

It goes without saying this MoBo/BIOS does not have native support for booting from NVMe on PCIe devices (why else would I be reading this post, right?).
I've disconnected the original RAID 0 I'll eventually replace, to make this exercise easier.
I've disabled the RAID on the BIOS and installed WINDOWS 10 PRO on my plain SATA SSD which boots normally.
The idea being that I will "read the MBR" from it, in other words, get to the dual boot menu, and then somehow point it to the NVMe PCIe SSD, and boot from its Windows 10 (so that it becomes my C: drive, which is the whole idea here).

Using Win10 should make it easier, so after installing it onto the SATA SSD and booting, I've then used the Intel cloning tool to clone it to the NVMe PCIe SSD (which the OS can see normally, just like the Win 7 Ultra on the older RAID can, once the intel driver is installed).

Booting from the SATA SSD does trigger the dual boot menu (which means it can see my 2 drives with different installations):
By getting to the command prompt from there, I can also freely navigate to the NVMe PCIe SSD and see everything that's there, so the "native Win 10 support for PCIe NVMe" is really there at boot time.
However when I select boot from the NVMePCIeSSD in the dual boot menu, the system will not do it.
It tells me I need to repair it, which of course doesn't work.
It was the same thing when I used the CLOVER method.

I tried running a full Windows 10 install into the NVMe SSD, but it doesn't finish the install because the first time it boots during the process, and I remove the USB Installation media, it doesn't know how to get back there on its own and continue with the installation.
Hence my "cloning" the SATA SSD using the Intel tool.

So, what should I try next, the DUET method?
It just seems like I'll get to the same point where the system can see both drives, yet won't continue the boot process on the NVMe drive. Something is amiss there...
Any light will be appreciated.

Zitat von Apieper im Beitrag #394

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Hello,
I tried running a full Windows 10 install into the NVMe SSD, but it doesn't finish the install because the first time it boots during the process, and I remove the USB Installation media, it doesn't know how to get back there on its own and continue with the installation.
Hence my "cloning" the SATA SSD using the Intel tool.

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Zitat von snorlaxgangs im Beitrag #393

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I'm still waiting for the ssd n adapter to arrive.The mainboard is from 2008, one of the first x58 back then. However i found a thread from a guy that used the same system like i have, it seems like nvme only work on the last slot PCIe.

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Zitat von Sandbites im Beitrag #395

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I suggest doing a modified approach.

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Zitat von Sandbites im Beitrag #395

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(...)Update after my install
1. I now boot from the clover installation on my internal hard drive instead of the USB stick. I made a small and separate 100MB partition on my internal SATA harddrive and formatted this 100MB partition with FAT32.
2. I then copied all the files in my Clover USB boot disk (which previously worked). I edited the config.plist on the UEFI partition on the clover Harddisk and changed all USB entries into HDD, now the PC boots through the clover boot disk on my hard drive.
3. The USB Clover is being kept for emergency , in case the hard drive fails in the future. It seems that the HDD boot is faster that the USB boot disk and I feel more comfortable that my boot disk is not dangling from the outside of my PC.
4. I also installed a PCIe 1X to 16X riser (ribbon type).
5. What it does is I insert the PCIe 1x on the mother board and the other end is a PCIe 16x slot.
6. Often the extra PCIe 1x slot where we install the m.2 is beside the graphics card. Using the extension/riser I was able to move the m.2 ssd far away from the graphics card so the heat of the graphics card reach and affect the ssd.

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Zitat von snorlaxgangs im Beitrag #389

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Hi, i registered to ask a few questions. I'm using Rampage II extreme ( 2101 bios), window 10 1903, 1 SSD, 1 HDD. R2E has PCIe 2.0 and capable of x16 x16 x1 or x16 x8 x8. I have read quickly through 26 pages and follow the intrusion from page 1 and page 25 where to find-copy the efi file, press f3 in Clover etc.. I'm using 2 usb, one has clover and the other has window 10 installation media. My questions are:
1) Which one these options from attach files should i choose to install window 10 on nvme m.2 ssd?
2) Which nvme m.2 ssd do you recommend for my mobo?
3) I found the adapter from aliexpress and i wanna ask if it is able to use full bandwidth x16 from my mainboard PCie 2.0. Please advice better adapter for my mb if possible.
Link adapter: https://vi.aliexpress.com/i/32833383867.html
4) Assume i got everything done correct and successfully installed window 10 on my nvme ssd. Do i still need to boot to usb clover first or just prioritize ""Samsung 970 Evo nvme m.2 ssd" as first boot?
5) Lastly, what should i do if the usb clover decided to stop working? Do i have to do the whole process again? If i only need to make another usb clover with BDU then just prioritize it as first boot or have to do some configuration?

All in all, thank you all for the effort to make old system better in 2019.

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On this machine, I am running Clover to dual boot to Ubuntu and Windows 10. However, my Nvme SSD
gives only SATA III speeds which is roughly 400-440 MB/s. I should be getting around 3000 MB/s as it is
PCI-e 3.0 x4 SSD. How to improve the speed?

Also, how to change the boot order of the OS's in Clover Boot Screen and if possible add better looking skins
to differentiate the OS's?

I need help. I already have the OS and everything copied to my NVME SSD using macrium reflect. Will this be a problem? I have downloaded clover on a USB but I dont see the file paths that are on page one of the guide. I did find the NVMEexpressdxe.efi file in clover/drivers/off though. But this doesnt seem to be the 64 version.

Can I get an updated file path?
I want to make sure im copying and putting the right things were they go

The file to be edited is;rootfolder->EFI-->CLOVER-->config.plist

1. In your BIOS make sure you can boot into your USB Where the clover is.
2. Boot into clover and go through the boot options, one by one, until you see your NVME where Windows is loaded. If you don’t boot into clover then you have to make sure your clover files are correct.
3. If you can Windows from your nvme then you are okay, if you can’t, try re-installing Windows.

Zitat von ndruiz im Beitrag #402

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I need help. I already have the OS and everything copied to my NVME SSD using macrium reflect. Will this be a problem? I have downloaded clover on a USB but I dont see the file paths that are on page one of the guide. I did find the NVMEexpressdxe.efi file in clover/drivers/off though. But this doesnt seem to be the 64 version.

Can I get an updated file path?
I want to make sure im copying and putting the right things were they go

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So i put the NVMEexpressdxe.efi file into the UEFI directory. Everything worked. I saw my SSD too. But when I boot up my SSD there is just a blank screen. Is this because I have already cloned my main drive and there is already an OS and files on my nvme SSD? How do I fix this.

Thanks for everything and for the quick replies.