Intel RST problem with z97

#1 | Intel RST problem with z97 datum

Tue May 24, 2016 8:18 am (Last edited: Tue May 24, 2016 8:20 am)

Hello to all this is my first post
great forum and great site !
well to the problem -
I have Asus z97 pro gamer
with latest bios 2203
and I think the intel sata\raid rom is series 13.x
so the problem is when I'm installing the 14.x series driver the option to dynamically accelerate the ssd fails to load even if just now in the old driver (13.x) it was enabled
tested all the 13.x driver are 100% ok
14.x from the first release on fails to load DSA
bios DSA option always on
I have noticed that if you play around with c-states in the bios it reflects on this DSA setting even in the 13.x series drivers
so any one having the same issue and or can direct me to a fix ?
thanks in advance !
Beni
please let me know if more info is needed !

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#2 | RE: Intel RST problem with z97 datum

Tue May 24, 2016 10:31 am

@genesys:
Hello Beni,
welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von genesys im Beitrag #1
when I'm installing the 14.x series driver the option to dynamically accelerate the ssd fails to load even if just now in the old driver (13.x) it was enabled
tested all the 13.x driver are 100% ok

The Intel RST drivers of the v14 line are installable on the meanwhile "old" Intel 8- and 9-Series Chipset systems, but not optimized for them. For details you may look into the start post of >this< thread.
Questions:
1. With which mode (AHCI/RAID) is the on-board Intel SATA Controller working?
2. Have you installed just the "pure" Intel RST driver or the complete RST Drivers & Software Set?
3. If it is the latter, did you uninstall the previously used RST Software before installing an Intel RST Drivers & Software Set with another version?
4. Why do you want to get any Intel RST driver of the v14 line installed, which has been optimized for the latest Intel Chipsets (from 100-Series up) and not for yours?
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#3 | RE: Intel RST problem with z97 datum

Tue May 24, 2016 2:45 pm (Last edited: Wed May 25, 2016 10:24 am)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #2
Hello Beni,1. With which mode (AHCI/RAID) is the on-board Intel SATA Controller working?
2. Have you installed just the "pure" Intel RST driver or the complete RST Drivers & Software Set?
3. If it is the latter, did you uninstall the previously used RST Software before installing an Intel RST Drivers & Software Set with another version?
4. Why do you want to get any Intel RST driver of the v14 line installed, which has been optimized for the latest Intel Chipsets (from 100-Series up) and not for yours?

1.its in SATA AHCI
2 full installation \ and a few times only f6disk one
3.i think I did - i will try once more after some DL's are done
4.on Asus support site it says that those 14.x drivers are for series 9 in windows 10 + latest has the most fix's... ? :) and it seems I get more performance on the v14 (but could be margin error)
thanks for the response

EDIT by Fernando: Quoting codes inserted

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#4 | RE: Intel RST problem with z97 datum

Tue May 24, 2016 4:50 pm

Zitat von genesys im Beitrag #3
on Asus support site it says that those 14.x drivers are for series 9 in windows 10 + latest has the most fix's... ? :)

Each new development line (v12, v13, v14 etc.) starts with new features, but with new bugs as well. That is why the RST drivers v12.9.4.1000 are much better/more stable than the newer v13.0.0.1098 ones.

Zitat
it seems I get more performance on the v14

I doubt that. Please look into the start post of >this< thread.

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#5 | RE: Intel RST problem with z97 datum

Wed May 25, 2016 7:08 am (Last edited: Wed May 25, 2016 10:16 am)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #4
Each new development line (v12, v13, v14 etc.) starts with new features, but with new bugs as well. That is why the RST drivers v12.9.4.1000 are much better/more stable than the newer v13.0.0.1098 ones.

to tell you the truth the best performance iv got is when I left the windows stock driver installed the "Standard SATA AHCI controller", but when copying from multipole driver performance drops
I'm guessing this is why you need Intel's drivers
so should we expect new v.13 to come out ? or one of the following v.14 will be good enough for now I'm with 13.1.0.1058 , 13.6.3.1001 work too.
I will try uninstalling and reinstalling
thanks

EDIT by Fernando: Quoting codes repaired and text reformatted

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#6 | RE: Intel RST problem with z97 datum

Wed May 25, 2016 10:24 am

Zitat von genesys im Beitrag #5
so should we expect new v.13 to come out ? or one of the following v.14 will be good enough

I recommend to install the v13.2.4.1000 driver.

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#7 | RE: Intel RST problem with z97 datum

Wed May 25, 2016 1:30 pm (Last edited: Wed May 25, 2016 1:41 pm)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #6
I recommend to install the v13.2.4.1000 driver.

wow I'm sorry to say but the benchmark shows me this isn't the one for me
about 1gb of difference checked three times [read 5000mb - was 6700mb] (Samsung rapid) I wonder why ????
I think ill go back to 13.6x
thanks man

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#8 | RE: Intel RST problem with z97 datum

Wed May 25, 2016 1:45 pm (Last edited: Wed May 25, 2016 1:50 pm)

Zitat von genesys im Beitrag #7
I'm sorry to say but the benchmark shows me this isn't the one for me
about 1gb of difference checked three times [read 5000mb - was 6700mb] (Samsung rapid) I wonder why ????

If you want to compare the performance of different drivers, you should never do that while running Samsung's Magician RAPID mode. Otherwise you benchmark the speed of your RAM and not the speed of your SATA connected disk drive.

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#9 | RE: Intel RST problem with z97 datum

Wed May 25, 2016 6:30 pm (Last edited: Wed May 25, 2016 6:31 pm)

@Fernando
I just installed the latest 14.8.9.1053 driver still same issue so iv decided to leave the software part and do a downgrade to the drivers only
seems like the problem is in the drivers as the RST software is 14.8.9.1053 and drivers are 13.6.3.1001 in this way I see the Dynamic Storage Accelerator option.
any ideas ?

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#10 | RE: Intel RST problem with z97 datum

Wed May 25, 2016 7:00 pm

Zitat von genesys im Beitrag #9
so iv decided to leave the software part and do a downgrade to the drivers only

That was/is not a good idea. The Intel RST driver and Software should always be from the same development branch.
I recommend to uninstall the Intel RST Software and to test just the different "pure" Intel RST(e) drivers (without using the RAPID mode).

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