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#31 | RE: Which drivers to use with Windows 10 datum

Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:06 pm

@Dark Light:
I am sorry about my late reply, but I still have no idea why you are not able to see and to enter the LEGACY mode Intel RST RAID Utility v11.2.0.1527.

Zitat von Dark Light im Beitrag #30
do I have to mod the bios module to get TRIM support in 11.2.0.1527?

No, you don't have to mod the related Intel RAID ROM module, because the already TRIM in RAID0 modded variant of the module is available for everyone within the start post of >this< thread. If you use the UBU tool, the replacement of the current Intel RAID ROM module by the TRIM in RAID0 modded Intel RAID ROM v11.2.0.1527 will be done automaticly, if you choose the related option "T" and the desired Intel RAID ROM version.

Zitat
But wouldn't I get better performance with the new 13.1.0.2126 bios?

No, you will get the by far best RAID0 performance, if you use the "classical" Intel RST RAID driver v11.2.0.1006 and have the matching Intel RAID ROM version v11.2.0.1527 within your mainboard BIOS.
On the other hand you may have to look for an alternative option, when your system is unable to load the Intel RAID ROM v11.2.0.1529 while booting. In this case the insertion of the TRIM in RAID0 modded Intel RST RAID ROM v13.1.0.2126 into the mainboard BIOS would be a good choice.

Zitat
Also if I did change the bios to a newer version would I have to recreate the ISO

No, there is no need to touch the Win10 ISO file, if you want to use any Intel RST(e) driver of the v12 or v13 line from scratch.

Zitat
couldn't I just use the normal method of adding drivers in the installation method since the ones I would be using would be newer than the ones that are already in a install image?

Yes, you can load the desired Intel RAID driver at the beginning of the Win10 installation by using the "Load Driver..." option.

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#32 | RE: Which drivers to use with Windows 10 datum

Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:42 pm (Last edited: Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:45 pm)

I tried out the default bios, think it was 12.7.0 and with it I was able to access the legacy RAID menu. I then forced UEFI and it came up with the same message as it did with the modded bios, however I did notice a new menu. I was able to enter the UEFI RAID menu and create an array, although it still came up with a message but I expect if I tried to install something on it it would find the array, I then tried this with the modded bios and I was able to enter the same UEFI menu when I forced it. I'm going to try the modded 11.2.0.1527 module and see if that somehow fixes the issue, although if the only difference is TRIM then I would expect it not to do anything. The only thing I am concerned about is where did that bios module come from, I presume it's not official whereas the other "un-modded" modules are official.

Another thing, if I can't get it to work what module should I use? And is there any point in trying older bioses?

EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded fully quoted post removed (to save space)

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#33 | RE: Which drivers to use with Windows 10 datum

Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:17 pm

I tried the TRIM 11.2.0.1527 it doesn't work, I can't get into the legacy RAID. It seems the system is just not loading it and going straight into UEFI since it finds a problem with the legacy version or it's not supported or something. I think I might have to use a different version, the only other things I can think of is to try older versions of the bios or to somehow remove the UEFI RAID module.

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#34 | RE: Which drivers to use with Windows 10 datum

Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:29 pm (Last edited: Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:54 pm)

@Dark Light:
Meanwhile I have downloaded and checked all the screenshots of your BIOS settings.
These are the correct BIOS settings to get the LEGACY mode Intel RAID ROM loaded at bootup:

SATA Mode: "RAID"
Intel Rapid Storage Technology: "IRST"
Option ROM Messages: "Force BIOS"
Fast Boot: "Disabled" (Attention: Your setting was "Enabled". You should try the option "Disabled" just for the creation of the RAID array and for the OS installation. Later on you can choose the "Enabled" option.)
CSM: "Enabled"
Boot from Storage Devices: "Legacy OPROM"
Secure Boot: "Disabled"

If you should still not be able to get access to the LEGACY mode Intel RAID Utility v11.2.0.1527, I recommend to do the following:

Let the UBU tool update the current TRIM modded Intel RAID ROM v11.2.0.1527 to the TRIM modded v13.1.0.2126.
Enter the BIOS, set everything to "DEFAULT"and flash the modded BIOS.
Enter the BIOS again, set everything to "DEFAULT" and then the SATA Controller to "RAID" and the Intel Rapid Storage Technology to "IRST", save the changes and power off the computer for a while.
Enter the BIOS again, do all the other above mentioned settings and save the changes.
Reboot and look what happens.
If you get access to the Intel RAID Utility, delete the existing RAID array and create a new one.
Boot off the Win10 image you want to get installed onto the RAID0 array.
Load the Intel RAID driver v13.1.0.1058 WHQL when you get the option to do it.
Create a new partition for the OS (size: according to your wishes).
Let the Win10 Setup install the OS onto the desired partition of the RAID0 array.

Zitat von Dark Light im Beitrag #32
The only thing I am concerned about is where did that bios module come from, I presume it's not official whereas the other "un-modded" modules are official.

There is nothing to worry about the "TRIM in RAID0 modded" Intel RAID ROM modules, which are offered within this Forum and by the UBU tool. All these modules have been modified by me according CPL0's method. Only 1 single bit, which is responsable for the TRIM in RAID0 feature, has been altered. Thousands of users (inclusive myself), who have successfully flashed a BIOS with this "TRIM in RAID0" modded module and got this way TRIM in RAID0 support, cannot be wrong.

Zitat von Dark Light im Beitrag #33
the only other things I can think of is to try older versions of the bios or to somehow remove the UEFI RAID module.

I do not recommend to do that.

Good luck!

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#35 | RE: Which drivers to use with Windows 10 datum

Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:41 pm

11.2.0.1527 doesn't work, I tried disabling fast boot and a few other things, it just won't work. I'm using 13.1.0.2126 and I am able to get into the utility fine. Just one last question, what is the best strip size?

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#36 | RE: Which drivers to use with Windows 10 datum

Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:08 pm

@Dark Light:
Thanks for your report. I still have no idea why you were not able to get the Intel RAID Utility v11.2.0.1527 working with your X79 system.

Zitat von Dark Light im Beitrag #35
I'm using 13.1.0.2126 and I am able to get into the utility fine. Just one last question, what is the best strip size?

For "normal" users I recommend to choose 64KB as RAID0 stripe size.

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#37 | RE: Which drivers to use with Windows 10 datum

Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:30 pm (Last edited: Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:31 pm)

I installed Windows 10, although the benchmark does show a slower speeds at 4k.

Old:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19573402/Benchmark.png

New:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1957...indows%2010.png

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#38 | RE: Which drivers to use with Windows 10 datum

Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:12 pm (Last edited: Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:12 pm)

Zitat von Dark Light im Beitrag #37
I installed Windows 10, although the benchmark does show a slower speeds at 4k.

Maybe you have not yet done all the settings, which are required for the best possible performance (look >here<).
What about the "Power Options"? Have you set them to "High Performance"?
Furthermore the CrystalDiskMark is not the best benchmark tool for single and RAIDed SSDs. Much better is the tool named "Anvil's Storage Utilities".

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