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#151 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:38 pm (Last edited: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:56 pm)

@ alain81:
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Zitat von alain81 im Beitrag #150
If I have understood correctly I have to set IDE in the bios and after the OS installation is finished I have to install the 64bit version of the pack listed as 1. "Non-AHCI nForce Performance Packs for Vista/Win7" in the "B. Modded nForce Driverpacks" section.

You can use the "NForce4 WHQL Driverpack" as well, since you do not want to install the nForce SATA driver. I would not run the installer of any nForce driverpack, because the Win7 on-board drivers are newer and maybe better than the old nForce ones. What I recommend to do is the installation of the missing drivers from within the Device Manager.

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Then I should install the "Missing Audio driver", then avoid the updates from windows update and I'm all set right?

Yes!

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#152 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:49 pm

Perfect!
Thank you for the quick reply Fernando!
I really appreciate it!

Have a great day!

A.

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#153 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:09 pm

Hi,
I like to try the Win7 64bit NVIDIA430 driverpacks from Fernando, but I get error messages on the links of the first post:

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nig.alert:75: bad argument #1 to 'find' (string expected, got table)
stack traceback:
[C]: in function 'find'
nig.alert:75: in main chunk
(tail call): ?
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
init:93: in function 'pcall'
init:203: in function

Is there some place else where I can get them?
Thanks in advance
Eveline

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#154 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:55 pm

@ Denkster:

Hello Eveline,
welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Since nobody else reported about problems with the links of the start post, I suspect, that either your browser or your network settings prevent a proper download.
If you would tell me, which nForce driverpack you want to try, I will attach it to my next post.

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Fernando

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#155 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:51 pm

Dear Fernando,

Thank you for your prompt and kind answer.

I need the drivers for:

- Windows 7 64bit
- Motherboard Asus M2N, with the following specs:
- - AMD AM2 Platform
- - NVIDIA nForce® 430� MCP
- - Dual-Channel DDR2 800

Especially the drivers for the storage controllers are vital to me.

Regarding what might go wrong with my download:
- My browser is Firefox 31.0
- My network settings have nothing special either.
- Maybe my anti-malware / firewall (Norman Security suite 10) spoiles our fun?

Thank you for your help!
Eveline

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#156 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:55 pm

Zitat von Denkster im Beitrag #155
- Maybe my anti-malware / firewall (Norman Security suite 10) spoiles our fun?

Yes, try to disable it before starting the download. After having completed it, you can let it check for malware.

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#157 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:05 am

Dear Fernando,

Right!
Disabling Norman did the trick.
The files downloaded fine!
Thanks

Eveline

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#158 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:11 pm

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #151
@ alain81:
You can use the "NForce4 WHQL Driverpack" as well, since you do not want to install the nForce SATA driver. I would not run the installer of any nForce driverpack, because the Win7 on-board drivers are newer and maybe better than the old nForce ones. What I recommend to do is the installation of the missing drivers from within the Device Manager.

@ Fernando: would you recommend still using your driver pack when installing regular sata drives (so no raid) using win7?

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#159 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:25 pm (Last edited: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:27 pm)

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I have a system with nVidia 750i SLI. And a SSD as my system disc, with a Windows 7 x64.
I have installed the MS provided drivers, your modded drivers, NVidia drivers... all of them.
I did check the TRIM functionality with the "classic" command:

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fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

My result was always 0. Similar result I got on my laptop too - that has intel chipset, SSD, Windows 7 x64.
I have use the system a while and I noticed the nForce system slowing down. Digging around I found this little gem - a software that actually checks the TRIM by writing a file, deleting it and comparing the "leftover" after several (usually 20) seconds, to see if TRIM was used to reclaim the space.
Surprise!
On my Intel chipset laptop, after 20 seconds, I got "TRIM worked".
On my nForce system, I got "TRIM was not used, maybe you need to wait more or reset". Well, waited more, restarted, changed the drivers around (all of the nForce drivers that I had around, including your modded ones)... still got "TRIM is not working".
Replaced the drivers with generic ones from Windows "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller", re-booted and re-chect the TRIM. It works!

So I post here for everyone to see - nForce drivers will "report" that TRIM is working but will not actually pass the command to the SSD. Use generic Microsoft drivers and you will be fine.

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#160 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:49 pm

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@ SiNic67:

Welcome at Win-RAID Forum and thanks for your contribution!

Zitat von SoNic67 im Beitrag #159
I have installed the MS provided drivers, your modded drivers, NVidia drivers... all of them.
I did check the TRIM functionality with the "classic" command:
1
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify
 
My result was always 0. Similar result I got on my laptop too - that has intel chipset, SSD, Windows 7 x64.

The "fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify" command only checks, whether the OS (Win7/Win8) is sending TRIM commands to the reated SATA Controller (result: "0") or not (result: "1"), but it doesn't verify at all, if TRIM passes the related SATA Controller and really is doing its work within a single SSD or an SSD RAID array.

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I have use the system a while and I noticed the nForce system slowing down. Digging around I found this little gem - a software that actually checks the TRIM by writing a file, deleting it and comparing the "leftover" after several (usually 20) seconds, to see if TRIM was used to reclaim the space.

Yes, contrary to the previously mentioned "fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify" command the TrimCheck tool is able to detect TRIM activity within the SSD(s). You can find the download link and a guide about how to use this tool within >this< thread.

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On my Intel chipset laptop, after 20 seconds, I got "TRIM worked".
On my nForce system, I got "TRIM was not used, maybe you need to wait more or reset". Well, waited more, restarted, changed the drivers around (all of the nForce drivers that I had around, including your modded ones)... still got "TRIM is not working".
Replaced the drivers with generic ones from Windows "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller", re-booted and re-chect the TRIM. It works!

This is correct. The old NVIDIA nForce SATA drivers do not support TRIM, but the generic Intel IDE and AHCI drivers do!

Regards
Fernando

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#161 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:42 am (Last edited: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:45 am)

The performance with the MS standard IDE drivers is slower than with the nVidia drivers - Windows Score is 6.8 versus 7.0.
I cannot get AHCI on my cipset I guess... so I have to rely on IDE mode from MS?
Windows update did try to give me an updated driver for the "nvidia corporation nForce Serial ATA controller" published 12/20/2012.
Do you know if that too is faulty and not passing the TRIM?

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#162 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:43 am

Zitat von SoNic67 im Beitrag #161
I cannot get AHCI on my cipset I guess...

Yes, your nForce chipset doesn't support AHCI.

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so I have to rely on IDE mode from MS?

Yes, if you want TRIM support within your SSD.

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Windows update did try to give me an updated driver for the "nvidia corporation nForce Serial ATA controller" published 12/20/2012.
Do you know if that too is faulty and not passing the TRIM?

You can try tha nForce SATA driver, which is offered by Windows Update without big risks, because you dont have an nForce RAID system, but you will not get TRIM support, if you use it.

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#163 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:42 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:08 am)

Newbe on this forum -please bear with me... :)
I have a Dell Xps 630i
I currently use Win 8.1
I'm using a RAID 1, with 2 disks in mirror ~2TB space
I currently have: Driver Provider NVIDIA Corporation, dated 12.09.2011, versjon 10.6.0.22, signed by MS installed.

Questions:
1. Is there an updated driver pack I can use? Form the forst post, it seems the one for Win 8 is not suitable (Not compatible with 630i?)
2. Is there an Raid Managment tool for my current HW / driver?

Thx!
Lars

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#164 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:21 am

@ Irb:
Hello Lars,
welcome at Win-RAID Forum!

Zitat von lrb im Beitrag #163
1. Is there an updated driver pack I can use? Form the forst post, it seems the one for Win 8 is not suitable (Not kompatible with 630i?)

Since NVIDIA had stopped the development of nForce chipsets and their drivers in 2010, you cannot expect newer nForce drivers. Furthermore the security features of Windows 8/8.1 make it very difficult to install any modded driver.
What I can offer is an nForce driverpack v15.41, which has been designed for MCP72/73 chipsets and probably will support your nForce 630i (MCP73) system. It contains NVIDIA nForce SATA and RAID drivers v11.1.0.26 WHQL dated 06/12/2009. If you are interested, please et me know the architecture of your Windows 8.1 (32bit or 64bit). Furthermore you should post the HardwareIDs of your NVIDIA nForce Serial ATA and RAID Controller (right click onto them > "Properties" > "Details" > "Property" > "HardwareIDs").

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2. Is there an Raid Managment tool for my current HW / driver?

No, not for your currently used nForce RAID driver v10.6.0.22, but the above mentioned NVIDIA nForce driverpack 15.41 contains a RAIDTOOL application v11.1.0.28. So if you will run the installer of the package and choose the install of the MediaShield storage driver, the RAIDTOOL will be automaticly installed together with the nForce SATARAID drivers.

Regards
Fernando

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#165 | RE: NVIDIA: Optimized nForce Driverpacks for Vista/Win7 datum

Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:31 am (Last edited: Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:37 am)

The NVidia drivers will not pass the TRIM command (to the SSD). But they get a SSD Windows Score of 7.0.
The MS IDE drivers will pass the TRIM command but, since they are not native SATA, yield a SSD Win Score of only 6.8.

I have bought (and installed) a PCI-E to SATA adapter based on the ASM1061 Chipset (Asmedia 1061 SATA Host Controller). Controller is capable of PCIe ver 2 connection but on the NVidia 750i motherboard we have only 1.0... so it works in that slower mode.

However, now the SSD Windows Score is 7.4. And I have TRIM. Problem solved.

All for $15 :)

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