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#121 | RE: [Discussion] How to get a Samsung SM951 M.2 SSD (AHCI variant) bootable? datum

Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:00 pm (Last edited: Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:15 pm)

@Fernando,
After some tests I report that finally the Sabertooth X99 BIOS V2001 does support SM951 AHCI 512 GB W10x64 booting.
No need to inject any BIOS module.
I finally succeed by doing a FRESH W10 x64 install GPT full pure UEFI options (from a w10 stick usb3 Fat32 GBT "rufused"):

I ignore why ONLY a FRESH install process succeed and all tries i have done by CLONING a i750 NVMe W10 x64 -> SM951 AHCI always (whatever the cloning tool is used) never boot.
Cloned image on SM951 AHCI never complete a boot and got a W10 blue screen with error message "INACESSIBLE BOOT DEVICE".

EDIT by Fernando: Inserted screenshot resized (it was too wide).

ASUS Sabertooth X99/USB 3.1, W10 x64 21H2 NVMe i750, BIOS v4101, CPU Intel i7 5930K, 32GB DDR4, Asus GTX 1660TI 6GB DDR6
ASUS PRIME Z390M-Plus W11 x64 21H2 22000.194 NVMe 970 , BIOS v3004, 16GB DDR4, CPUs: Intel i3-8100 (4 cores) +UHD 630, i5-9400F (6 cores) +GTX 980.

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#122 | RE: [Discussion] How to get a Samsung SM951 M.2 SSD (AHCI variant) bootable? datum

Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:08 pm (Last edited: Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:23 pm)

@ 100PIER:
Thanks for your report. It is fine, that you succeeded at least.
Since I always prefer a "clean" OS installation and never have cloned any image onto another disk drive, I avoid such time consuming experience as you just had.

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#123 | RE: [Discussion] How to get a Samsung SM951 M.2 SSD (AHCI variant) bootable? datum

Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:11 am (Last edited: Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:13 am)

Guys, a suggestion ... I have just read that using PCie expansion card from Addonics, you don't need any drivers or special UEFI bios. You just need a bios to boot from AHCI...

http://www.legitreviews.com/addonics-m-2...0-review_165632

I have not tested this, but am tempted to try if on my old Asus ROG Formula 775 DDR2 motherboard. :)

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#124 | RE: [Discussion] How to get a Samsung SM951 M.2 SSD (AHCI variant) bootable? datum

Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:04 pm

@ Bor Greiner:
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Zitat von Bor Greiner im Beitrag #124
I have just read that using PCie expansion card from Addonics, you don't need any drivers or special UEFI bios. You just need a bios to boot from AHCI...

This is a general requirement and doesn't depend on the PCIe adapter card.
Furthermore the BIOS should support booting off the PCIe ports.

Good luck!
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#125 | RE: [Guide] How to get M.2/PCIe connected Samsung AHCI SSDs bootable? datum

Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:16 pm (Last edited: Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:24 pm)

After having read >this< post written by mosie I decided to do some tests myself trying to find a way how to get the Samsung SM951 AHCI SSD bootable with my old Z68 system.

Test Report:

At first I checked, whether the Samsung SM951 AHCI is bootable from scratch or not. The system used still the original ASUS P8Z68-V BIOS v3603, where I had simply added SoniX's NvmeExpressDxE module according to my start post guide.
Test result: Failure > The Samsung SM951 AHCI SSD has been neither detected by the BIOS nor shown as bootable drive by hitting the Boot Menu (F8).
Then I added the "SAMSUNG_M2_DXE" module, which I had previously extracted from the latest ASRock Z97 Extreme6 BIOS 2.50, flashed the modded BIOS into the ASUS P8Z68-V mainboard BIOS chip and looked, what happened.
Test result: Failure again! > I got the same result as within the first test.
At last try I added another "SAMSUNG_M2_DXE" module, which had been offered >here< by our Forum member xelanaiznac.
Test result: SUCCESS! > The Samsung SM951 AHCI booted flawlessly right after having powered on the computer.

Here is the proof:

My conclusion:
It is no problem to boot off an M.2/PCIe connected NVMe or AHCI supporting SSD with an older Intel Chipset from 6-Series up and to get benefit from their extremely good performance, if the system uses a BIOS, where the related EFI BIOS modules have been added to the BIOS.

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#126 | RE: [Guide] How to get M.2/PCIe connected Samsung AHCI SSDs bootable? datum

Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:08 pm (Last edited: Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:24 pm)

WoW

Perfect !
I can t wait to try it.

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#127 | RE: [Guide] How to get M.2/PCIe connected Samsung AHCI SSDs bootable? datum

Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:03 pm

Have been trying to get a TS 140 bios to recognize the sm951 (ahci) to no avail. Any suggestions, I have looked everywhere and tried inserting the module.

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#128 | RE: [Guide] How to get M.2/PCIe connected Samsung AHCI SSDs bootable? datum

Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:11 pm

@gshover:
Welcome at Win-RAID Forum!
If you really want help, you should give away the secrets of your system (motherboard/Chipset).

Zitat von gshover im Beitrag #127
Have been trying to get a TS 140 bios to recognize the sm951 (ahci) to no avail.

What is "TS 140" or have I missed something?

Regards
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#129 | RE: [Guide] How to get M.2/PCIe connected Samsung AHCI SSDs bootable? datum

Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:08 pm

Sorry I was not specific and probably still am not. It is a Lenovo Think Server 140.

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#130 | RE: [Guide] How to get M.2/PCIe connected Samsung AHCI SSDs bootable? datum

Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:19 pm

Zitat von gshover im Beitrag #129
It is a Lenovo Think Server 140.

Thanks for this important information.
What have you already tried to get the Samsung SM951 AHCI working with your system?

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#131 | RE: [Guide] How to get M.2/PCIe connected Samsung AHCI SSDs bootable? datum

Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:43 pm

I have read most of the posts in here and have tried to contact lenovo on this matter before attempting a solution using a bios mod. Unfourtunately, my configuration with the pcie adapter/M.2 configuration is not supported. (Of course). My OS recognizes the sm 951 no problem.

I have the sm 951 running as high speed storage on the pcie (2.0 x 4) slot on my motherboard. (I know it's a bit of overkill but found it for a nice price)

I thought I found the answer in this forum and attempted bios modification for a fix. No fix. I appreciate any suggestions, if any.

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#132 | RE: [Discussion] How to get a Samsung SM951 M.2 SSD (AHCI variant) bootable? datum

Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:43 pm (Last edited: Fri May 13, 2016 10:34 am)

Hello,

When I open the BIOS image it looks a bit different than you show.
As you can see the volume counting is a bit different. I have succesfully inserted the module though. But I'm not sure this look is right.

FYI: Motherboard: C216 WS from Asrock

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#133 | RE: [Discussion] How to get a Samsung SM951 M.2 SSD (AHCI variant) bootable? datum

Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:40 pm (Last edited: Fri May 13, 2016 10:35 am)

@Crowned:
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Zitat von Crowned im Beitrag #132
When I open the BIOS image it looks a bit different than you show.
As you can see the volume counting is a bit different. I have succesfully inserted the module though. But I'm not sure this look is right.

For me it looks fine. The "Volume" number is a little bit different, but the inserted Samsung M.2 module has gotten the correct place at the end of the Volume number, where the CSMCORE module is located.
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#134 | RE: [Discussion] How to get a Samsung SM951 M.2 SSD (AHCI variant) bootable? datum

Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:43 pm (Last edited: Fri May 13, 2016 10:35 am)

Zitat von Fernando im Beitrag #133
For me it looks fine. The "Volume" number is a little bit different, but the inserted Samsung M.2 module has gotten the correct place at the end of the Volume number, where the CSMCORE module is located.

Alright great,

Asrock Easy Flash (or something) should accept the modified BIOS file with no problem right?
Also, are there any risks of bricking my BIOS? (I really want to avoid this)

EDIT by Fernando: Unneeded parts of the fully quoted post removed (to save space)

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#135 | RE: [Discussion] How to get a Samsung SM951 M.2 SSD (AHCI variant) bootable? datum

Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:48 pm (Last edited: Fri May 13, 2016 10:35 am)

Zitat von Crowned im Beitrag #134
Asrock Easy Flash (or something) should accept the modified BIOS file with no problem right?

Probably yes, but you have to remove the UEFI header according >this< guide, before you are going to flash the modded BIOS.

Zitat
Also, are there any risks of bricking my BIOS? (I really want to avoid this)

Each BIOS modding may be risky, but in this case I am very confident, that you will not run into problems (provided, that you have done the BIOS modification the correct way).

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