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You are correct I've tested the USB floppies on it. The BIOS only limits 1 USB drive to be accessible in DOS. For example switching to B: redirects to A:. I'm trying to get pure hardware regular floppy drives dual linked to the FDC. I'll PM the info.
I downloaded it for now. I'll let you know when I get a chance to test it out.
I think previously I tested your driver it resulted in the "iaStor.sys is corrupted".
So it should prove interesting if you found a way to resolve this. :)
If you want to PM me what changes you did from the last version I'm interested in learning.
It may have some minor relevance only to someone else using the same motherboard but I'm happy to receive your BIOS settings privately and investigate further.
Okay if you can't install the XP yet maybe you can take the time to scan my BIOS options and compare them with yours and let me know the differences if any.
I will alter my BIOS settings one at a time to match yours and see if it nullifies the USB mouse functionality and let you know. If matching all your BIOS settings has no effect I might later try upgrading to your BIOS version and try it again just to be certain it works on v7.30.
But if I still retain USB mouse functionality with all things equal the only major difference I can see is our Windows XP versions and Language.
Windows XP Professional Edition SP3 - Version 5.1.2600.0000 - English
Windows XP Home Edition SP3 - Version 5.1.2600.5512 - Deutsch
Ahh first time using this @ :)
Okay... just finished starting a new thread under the new Sub forum more focused on getting the on board hardware devices to run in XP since I think the original Sub forum was more focused on installing XP on modern hardware.
I combed through my BIOS settings and typed up all I think may or may not be relevant but do a comparison of yours with mine to see if any of these options are different and make a note of it. I might try disabling or enabling these to isolate if one or more of these options gave me USB mouse functionality without additional drivers.
[BIOS settings potentially pertaining to native USB Mouse functionality in XP]
See if matching my BIOS settings exactly will make a difference but keep a log of the differences for me to investigate and I will see if your settings disable USB Mouse functionality when I match yours.
Notice I underclocked my system to 800 MHz. I don't know if this will affect anything but sometimes OSs may act erratic on fast machines and maybe the USB mouse is affected by this but if that is the case and you get through the install you should be able to bump the speed back up to normal once it completes the install.
Also see if you can locate a true PS/2 keyboard instead of a USB or using a USB to PS/2 adapter. Okay I read your updated message are you saying now the USB Keyboard plugged into either USB 2.0 Port or using a USB to PS/2 adapter to the PS/2 Keyboard Port works for the Keyboard? Can you get through the setup process by using the Keyboard only so it gets to the desktop? There are I believe three reboots so you have to watch when it auto reboots and pay attention since ACPI doesn't work it will look like a frozen screen. Just check the HD activity light before hitting the power reset button and let it continue booting to the HD or SSD. Let me know if the USB Keyboard using USB to PS/2 adapter plugged into the PS/2 Keyboard port allows you to get through the entire XP setup to desktop completion. If that works you can try it again just using USB 2.0 port to see if the USB Keyboard maintains functionality or dies after it gets into XP setup portion.
If you have a true PS/2 Keyboard plugged into the Purple PS/2 Keyboard port on the back of the motherboard back plate you should have no loss of input device or issues typing or using the TAB key to get to the next area of the screen to complete the setup process.
Let me know what happens.
Since it can be time consuming to pick and choose which of my messages to move to the proposed new forum, subforum structure. I think although some may pertain to the original forum (a few) they would benefit actually all going to the new proposed forum structure I outlined and if you want to give me temporary moderator power of that root forum that I proposed:
"Special Topics Tips/Questions/Links", under that forum is "Special: Windows 2000 / Windows XP / Windows 2003 Server", under that forum is "Special: How to get Windows XP working with Modern Hardware", under that forum is "How to install Windows XP on 100 and 200 Series SkyLake and Kaby Lake", and finally under that forum is "Video Capturing in Windows XP".
The XP installation introduction and guide let's put this under
"Special Topics Tips/Questions/Links", under that forum is "Special: Windows 2000 / Windows XP / Windows 2003 Server", under that forum is "Special: How to get Windows XP working with Modern Hardware"
b) who will write the start post with an introduction and a guide?
I think you would be better suited for writing the initial introduction and guide since this is your website and should have more of your flavor. I could try and modify what you wrote if that's okay with you later down the line for the final product and my current XP installation guide is still a work in progress as I'm still testing other "workable" and "non-workable" methods but at the moment under my guide "Hardware Prerequisites" are 100% guaranteed to work at the moment on our motherboard which should work on any other Series 100 and 200 motherboards. I haven't tested this on Z87 / Z97 Haswell or Broadwell so whether or not USB based or hard drive folder based installations work on those or the USB floppy based SATA AHCI driver insertion method works that could be tested by users on this site or if I decided to buy a Z87 / Z97 series motherboard I could update whether or not they failed similar to 100 and 200 Series. But I think if I were to write the guide I would go with what should work with all motherboards guaranteed which is the common denominator that I outlined. I spent a week almost two weeks to be exact testing every Windows 2000 and XP service pack and non service pack and used my DOS image program to restore the OS back to its original unaltered state for driver testing as well. Most of this stuff is very time consuming so the XP installation guide I wrote is just a condensed form of what actually will work so far. Most people installing something as ancient as XP OS will have their reasons. Some need the software since that particular software was not updated for a later version of Windows so they had no choice. Or their hardware only has drivers for XP and nothing later. Another reason that I can think of is for gaming since myself I prefer running games in their native OS instead of in a virtual environment which is slower and may not be 100% compatible. It also opens up the possibility that some users may have the knowledge to hack or modify XP 32-bit so it can use 64GB of memory instead of 3.2GB. I know a few Ramdrive software out there that can make use of the memory above 3.2GB. But I'm more interested in finding a way to for XP itself to use that memory for programs which I why I proposed Windows 2003 Server as part of the sub forum title since it is 32-bit based as well but can use up to 64GB and has a similar code to Windows XP.
c) which ones of your posts shall remain here resp. which ones should an be moved into the new thread (I need just the post numbers) and
All posts I have written to should be moved to at least the sub forum in my proposed forum tree.
"Special Topics Tips/Questions/Links"
"Special: Windows 2000 / Windows XP / Windows 2003 Server"
"Special: How to get Windows XP working with Modern Hardware"
"How to install Windows XP on 100 and 200 Series SkyLake and Kaby Lake" <----------
I can move the last few messages myself that drifted toward video capturing if you gave me some sort of co-moderator access to move and edit those messages around to "Video Capturing in Windows XP".
d) which important topic related informations have to be added into the start post of this thread (Note: My tip to use a directly connected optical drive with a CD/DVD as OS installation medium as stated by me >here<, will be added anyway.).
I think the main common denominator I outlined in the Hardware Prerequisites - under the Orange section are vital in order to install XP from my own troubleshooting and feedback from other users who ran into issues which I later modified as a requirement.
All your posts need much more space than required. If you really want, that your contributions will be read by other interested users, you should avoid:
b) unneeded blank lines
Unfortunately the blank lines I use them to separate out my ideas so they can be easily read. If I grouped everything together into one long paragraph it can be harder to follow along. If I were writing assembly code I might remove all spaces when possible and blank lines to conserve space and memory usage. I would try bullet points if they would help but I still feel that empty lines spacing is an effective tool to break down procedure so it's easier to follow. I have worked on condensing and eliminating more empty line spacing recently since you've edited quite a few of my messages so I hope that is visible to you. But as a compliance tool your idea of spoilers I have implemented in my XP installation hardware guide in an effort to reduce the amount of empty lines where possible but also to break it down into logical chunks that can be minimized or expanded spoilers instead of one long mass of words.
Thanks in return for hosting this site and the initial help / resistance as unbeknownst to you it actually helped me learn to modify the drivers myself and test out some of them on my spare system the motherboard we share in common. This build is actually not for me specifically but a friend of mine which I wanted to try and get XP / W7 / W10 functional in a multiOS boot but using SATA AHCI mode. I actually yesterday or should I say this early morning here was successful in getting the USB 3.1 controller to work in XP post XP install. I might have to do some further tests / experiments in seeing whether or not it can be slipstreamed in order to have a USB mouse or USB keyboard functional through that USB 3.1 port during the XP install. Although in my case I am using a PS/2 keyboard in the PS/2 keyboard port so I never lost keyboard input functionality which you described as not working and gave up trying to proceed further. As for the USB mouse I have verified that it does work in all the USB 2.0 and 3.0 ports on the rear side except the USB 3.1 port without any additional drivers aside from your Intel SATA AHCI driver nLite slipstreamed and works even on SP0 - Non Service Pack, SP1, SP2, and SP3.
I just want to clear up some things regarding your XP install attempt which you can later incorporate into the introduction / guide.
Which version of XP version and build number did you install? (XP Home, Pro, Media Center, 32-bit, 64-bit, English, German, et cetera)
Windows XP Professional SP3 Version 5.1.2600 - Going to the Command Prompt you will see the version and build number. You can also type "VER" in the Command Prompt window.
Can you confirm during your last XP test on the Asrock Z170 Fatal1ty Gaming Pro i7 motherboard did you use a genuine PS/2 keyboard in the PS/2 keyboard port and not a USB keyboard nor a USB keyboard with a USB to PS/2 adapter?
And can you verify the BIOS settings matched mine under the USB mouse settings I outlined in my XP installation Guide? From memory I believe my USB BIOS settings were default and not altered so maybe you can check under your own BIOS settings to see whether yours matches mine?
Is there a way I could later upload modified inf or driver files or does this require some form of moderator access?
Any confusion in what I wrote just respond to the forum message. If later you wish to purge some of our forum message exchanges later we can do that.
Thanks in advance.
Fernando, I'm not sure what would be an appropriate sub forum so I've thought about this as a temporary solution.
I like the initial proposal of "Special: How to get Windows XP working with Modern Hardware" under "Special Topics
Then add this sub forum under that:
"How to install Windows Windows XP on 100 and 200 Series SkyLake and Kaby Lake"
and you can place my XP installation guide as the first post.
[Guide] Integration of Intels AHCI/RAID drivers into a Windows XP/W2k3/W2k CD (46)
I will add a footnote link on the original posting myself to go to the new forum location.
For the other non pertinent stuff like the video capture devices in Windows XP.
"Video Capturing in Windows XP" as a sub forum under "How to install Windows XP on 100 and 200 Series SkyLake and Kaby Lake".
Unfortunately, I have no control over editing the other user's post regarding the larger images unless you gave me some sort of moderator editing control on this forum or under the proposed new sub forum I could try and do that myself.
Perhaps you can do the first image embedding of that posting so the Laserdisc images are hidden similar to the text spoiler method you employed on my prior messages.
You can also edit my post with the USB device pictures that seem to be self extracted from eBay somehow as I didn't add those myself. I only meant to add just the link and the photos somehow added themselves into the message.
Let me know if this solution works for you.
Again here is the branching sequence I think would fit for the forum starting from main forum to sub forum in a more condensed form.
"Special Topics Tips/Questions/Links", "Special: Windows 2000 / Windows XP / Windows 2003 Server", "Special: How to get Windows XP working with Modern Hardware", "How to install Windows XP on 100 and 200 Series SkyLake and Kaby Lake", "Video Capturing in Windows XP".
Each forum title within the quotes is a sub forum of the previous forum. You can place the main forum "Special: Windows 2000 / Windows XP / Windows 2003 Server" above the "Special: Windows 8.1/10 News, Tips & Problems" since Windows 2000, XP, and 2K3 Server came before 8.1 and 10.
I think it does copy those USB files but it fails to work in XP because Intel did something to the USB 3.0 Ports which removed some sort of USB 2.0 compatibility layer so the only way you could use Intel USB 3.0 Ports is if you could slipstream them into an XP optical disc. But here lies the problem no Intel USB 3.0 XP drivers exist so Skylake will never install via Intel USB port. It might work with a 3rd Party USB port if they have XP drivers. But again there are too many issues trying to use the USB to install XP. Stick with a SATA optical drive and hard drive/SSD plugged into the Intel SATA port. Slipstream the modified SATA AHCI XP driver and plug in a genuine PS/2 Keyboard into your PS/2 Keyboard Port. If you can't do any of these minimums before attempting it then you will be wasting a lot of time and pulling hair out. Again a mouse is NOT required to get through the XP Setup process.
Try the Sabertooth X79 I linked. It has 64GB Max. The X79 Fatal1ty only has 32GB Max so it is actually not the best server class motherboard.
When did this come out and when did you buy this?
The video capture device are you talking about this one?
DIAMOND VC500 One Touch Video Capture Edit Stream or Burn to DVD USB 2.0
Bus Type: USB | Part Number: VC500
ATI bought out Diamond I think and then AMD bought ATI out. I never thought any of this older stuff would be better than the new stuff.
So you highly recommend this device for capturing from Laserdiscs?
I am looking for a Laserdisc ripper but unfortunately I haven't found any that interface with a PC.
Most only have the composite and RCA audio connectors on the back.
Which Laserdiscs do you have that aren't on Blu-ray or DVD at this point?
Which Japanese Brand Model laserdisc player are you using?
I've only dealt with Pioneer and only one had the flip disc feature.
That's interesting. The ATI looked more ancient that the Hauppauge model.
You can try the http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/d...vr2-gaming.html
If you can get the output in Component or HDMI out then this might be sharper of a capture.
What exactly is your source video footage coming from?
As for your motherboard slots is there a reason why you need the Sound Blaster card? It won't work in XP and with your graphics card you can use HDMI video/audio out so you can take the SB card out and put the USB card in there instead.
Well I can't speak for him/her so I can't tell you if he/she slipstreamed the correct driver in that case or what he/she did. I can only vouch for the USB card I listed in my XP installation guide that I tested and works and it was cheap around $7 but it took 3 weeks to arrive. The guy said he picked a NEC chipset which I have not tested. I did test a Fresco Logic 1100 and that USB card did not work in XP so avoid that brand at all costs. There are other 3rd Party USB cards and I don't have all the money and time to order and test each one to see if it works. The FL1100 I had someone order 3 of these before I installed it in my motherboard and when I started the build and found out later the XP drivers didn't work and it pissed me off. If you want to gamble on another 3rd party USB chipset that's up to you. I cannot guarantee any other would work and it took 3 weeks to arrive and was cheap so in my case it paid off. I have never tried or need to slipstream any USB drivers in my installations. I manually added the driver through the Hardware Device Manager. So without a PS/2 keyboard it will be tough to get there and install the driver manually.
I can only say on my motherboard which happens to be identical to Fernando's I had no issues using a cheap $10 USB mouse from Amazon without doing anything or adding any drivers other than the modded SATA AHCI driver. Even XP SP0 worked so Service Packs are not a requirement. It was a clean XP install and the mouse functioned the entire time. I'm baffled as to why Fernando couldn't use his USB mouse or why his input devices stopped working altogether. You can ask him yourself if he used a USB keyboard or a PS/2 keyboard because I can only guess he was probably not using a PS/2 Keyboard in the PS/2 Keyboard port. I gave him my instructions for using the USB mouse so if he's changed his BIOS settings differently than mine than perhaps that's why his USB mouse did not function in XP. I am also using the same exact BIOS revision and I doubt AsRock tweaks each motherboard when they should be identical. There is only one thing different I can assume would be different between my copy of XP and his. I think he's probably using a non US version of Windows XP. I don't know if he's using XP Pro, Home, or Media Center edition so these other versions of XP could affect the USB mouse functionality possibly but I doubt it.
That part with the Blue background, White Foreground Text. That part isn't Windows yet. That's kind of the DOS portion and those drivers it's loading at the beginning from the optical disc is where it is stored. But once it goes into the Windows portion in Picture #2 is actually Windows XP and here is when you need USB drivers loaded for the USB controller. I'm going to assume this is where you lost all USB keyboard and USB mouse functionality.
As for keyboard shortcuts notice the "I accept this agreement" with a bubble? You can use the TAB key on the keyboard to get to that bubble and hit ENTER.
Okay I see what you're doing and why you are using XP.
Try the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950 model 01191: WinTV-HVR-950Q for ATSC, NTSC and clear QAM TV, with audio video adapter, remote control and portable antenna. English documentation.
This one can record from Composite Video like VHS tapes or old game consoles or camcorders.
This is a USB stick with break out cables. This has drivers for XP, W7, and W8. I'm sure W10 might also work too if you had to force the W7 driver.
It includes it's own capture software called WinTV. I use this myself to record HD TV channels.
The PCIe card version is the WinTV WinTV-HVR-2250 which also has a breakout cable for Composite Video. This one will probably be faster and less lag since it avoids using USB to transfer the video back and forth to the computer.
As for Black quality I haven't seen any problems and seems to record all my HD channels OTA just fine and sharp as the original broadcast.
Depends if the USB Controller is 3rd Party on Board. I know for a fact Intel USB 3.0 never made XP drivers so if you only have Intel USB Controllers on your motherboard than you can't. IF a 3rd Party USB Controller other than Intel has made XP drivers for their chipset then of course that's possible. I haven't looked around hard enough for a Skylake motherboard based on their USB controller supporting XP.
Just so you know starting with Haswell most companies dropped XP driver support so you are going to have dig harder to find one that is supported by XP.
When I buy a motherboard I try to buy one that has the most backward compatibility. You can't always find one that has SATA AHCI XP driver that's why you are here. You can't always find with USB controller with XP driver unless it's 3rd party and they created one. It's harder to make a driver from scratch. Spending $7 or so and waiting a few weeks isn't too bad of a trade off if this USB issue is your hold up.
Bottom line is if your goal is the most XP driver support and the most powerful CPU.
There are two options if you want to go back to the last generation with the best XP driver support:
Z68 or Z77 Chipset if you want to have max driver support for XP.
If you go with anything higher like Haswell, Broadwell, SkyLake, Kaby Lake say goodbye to easy XP driver support without major hunting or modded inf files which either someone will have to do for you or you learn how to do it yourself. In the case of time it's easier to just buy something that will do it than spending countless hours trying to do the same thing.
If you want to have a Skylake or Kaby Lake motherboard that can run XP it should at least have these features below:
Make sure it has a PS/2 Keyboard port on the back.
Make sure there is at least an Intel SATA Controller.
All other driver issues can be taken care of by a AMD or nVidia graphics card with HDMI output, USB card, and Network Card if you want functionality in XP. Double check all the devices you buy for XP driver support before purchasing.
I think given your extreme situation buying an all in one computer lacking the PS/2 port you are in a worse spot to get XP running without spending countless hours creating an automated XP installation disc. If you have the time to look into that you might be successful. I haven't run into this problem so I haven't taken the time to try this out.
Just another thought hit me was without the PS/2 Keyboard I don't think you can select the Partition to install XP?
Can you get past this point fine? If so then if you buy the USB card and slipstream the driver with nLite I think you will have access to the USB mouse and USB keyboard and be able to finish the setup process.
What's the video capture hardware you are using?
What's the video capture software you are trying to run?
I might have some other solutions for you whether or not you get XP running.
No, I'm saying they never worked except for USB mouse functionality. Like I said before there are no XP drivers for the built in USB controllers yet. Maybe with some modding of the drivers it might be possible but I did try modifying the Intel USB controllers but they don't work. It's easier to get a cheap off eBay 3rd Party USB 4 Port Card I recommended in my guide if you need full access to USB devices other than a mouse.
If you're just trying to install XP all you need is just a PS/2 Keyboard connected to a PS/2 port on the back place of your motherboard.
If it doesn't have it I don't think you can get through the setup. Look into nLite there are some automated options for XP for unattended install. I know you can enter the CD-key there so it's automated during the install. I did it before so I didn't have to type the CD key in every time I tested.
As for the other options I'm not entirely sure if all can be done inside the TXTSETUP.SIF, but if all options can be entered through that file than in theory you won't have to use the keyboard at all and thus it should install till completion which would actually at least get you to a working desktop. But then again you are screwed because without a mouse you can't do nothing. Although if you bought that USB card in my guide you could slipstream the USB drivers into the nLite ISO which after it got to the desktop all USB ports should in theory work.
I can't think of any other way in your situation to get around this problem.
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I'm sorry, I'm tired/not understanding some of your information.
A) you had no problems using the USB mouse on that MOBO during installation
B) I have to use a PS/2 keyboard to install first?
both aren't true at the same time, right?
What kind of MOBO do you have? Is it an ASUS? Or ASRock?
USB card chipset? Do you mean a PCI-E card that has 4 USB ports on it, and it should have XP drivers? And be "Skylake" compatible? That I can integrate into the XP install?
I'm weary of all this hacking/modding/fiddling because if I'm not using the drives and drivers to their full speed capacity, then I'm going to have trouble capturing live video, and don't want to drop frames.
On my motherboard the USB mouse worked without any additional tinkering or drivers. Although the USB ports themselves could not be used for anything else like flash drives, USB hard drives, et cetera.
I use the PS/2 Keyboard port on my motherboard to finish the XP setup but the USB mouse also worked as I stated without needing a 3rd party USB card. The USB mouse is NOT NECESSARY to finish the XP setup process. All you need is a keyboard. That is how Windows was originally made for a long time. I think Vista could be completed all the way to the end without a mouse if I'm not mistaken.
There is no hacking of anything in any of my tests because I wanted to make the XP installation process as simple and straight forward as possible. The only mod would be the SATA AHCI driver which Fernando modified for newer Hardware IDs. But you are using nLite to slipstream that driver onto your burned ISO.
Depending on your budget. The most powerful one I can recommend that should work is this one:
Server class so you'll need a new CPU and maybe ECC REG Server Memory unless it can use regular DDR4.http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%...%20Gaming%20i7/
Should be able to Max out between 128GB to 256GB on board according to specs.
My motherboard seems to be sold out everywhere or discontinued at the moment.
See if you can locate this newer chipset.
ASRock FATAL1TY Z270 PROFESSIONAL GAMING I7http://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Fatal1ty%...ndex.asp#osW764
You should be able to use SkyLake and Kaby Lake CPUs on it no problem. Should even be able to pop in your CPU from your motherboard.